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bigmansM

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I read about such NTSC DVD's which are recorded with 24 fps progressive video. Player must perform Telecine by playback... I didn't see such DVD yet (unless DVD2AVI reports fps wrong). Can someone give some examples (titles)?

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Message # 1 11.04.23 - 19:14:58
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Most movie DVDs are 24fps, except tv programs. Your DVD2AVI settings are not right, you have to choose Video -> Field Operation -> Forced FILM

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Message # 2 11.04.23 - 19:19:22
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Sogra, I didn't ask for DVD2AVI manual.

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Message # 3 11.04.23 - 19:28:48
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Every DVD made from a cinema movie is normaly recorded 23.976 FPS progressive, e.g. Lord of the rings, Fifth element, Starwars I,II and nearly all movies more. The (pseudo) interlaced frames are constructed by the player to make the movie watchable on TV. Computerplayers play thoses DVDs with 23.976 progressive FPS. DVDs made from Interlaced video are normaly converted to interlaced mpeg2 (like the addons of a DVD, where you have to use a deinterlacer to get rid of the nasty weaved lines), e.g. TV-Productions filmed on video, Homevideos... Hope that helps MvB

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Message # 4 11.04.23 - 19:34:57
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Yeah, a lot, by only hollywood productions! I've got so many anime NTSC DVDs, so many of them, although all of them is genuinely 23,976fps progressive, only 2 DVDs out of ... more than 100 DVDs are encoded properly 100% in progressive mode. All others were 100% 29,97fps interlaced and some were kinda 70% FILM and 30% NTSC. Man I could kick those who are authoring those DVDs!! :angry: When will they learn to encode 24fps stuff always in FILM mode :confused:

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Message # 5 11.04.23 - 19:41:27
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So, this means that when DVD2AVI reports that it's FILM, and people leaves it at 29.97 fps that program itself inserts duplicate fields (telecines) ? Little surprising... A seen lot of chinese DVD's, and most of them reports as NTSC, but they can be IVTC-ed fine with Decomb or TMPGenc.

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Message # 6 11.04.23 - 19:47:51
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DVD2AVI reports in the preview window what the mpeg-2 stream settings are, frame by frame. The results shown will depend upon the film transfer technologies and methodologies used by the DVD mastering facility. There's a great deal of discussion about filter options and choices to manage different results, in and I recommend reviewing the document, if you've not already done so.

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Message # 7 11.04.23 - 19:57:45
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Hi- So, this means that when DVD2AVI reports that it's FILM, and people leaves it at 29.97 fps that program itself inserts duplicate fields (telecines)? Yep-but it's just following the flags set during the telecine process (aka 2:3 pulldown). NTSC Movies are usually stored on the DVD as 24fps progressive. has a pretty good article on this site that explains what's going on: PHP Code:

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Message # 8 11.04.23 - 20:07:40
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Is there any MPEG2-/DVD-Player-Software/DirectShowFilter that can be configured to perform telecine on 23.976 progressive NTSC input to output 29.97 fps?

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Message # 9 11.04.23 - 20:19:02
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You can set the necessary flags to change progressive MPEG-2 input to 29.97 FPS simply by using pulldown.exe (or a similar method). This changes nothing in the content of the video itself other than altering flags in the stream so that the necessary fields are repeated.

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Message # 10 11.04.23 - 20:23:03
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