Garageband will have flex and groove tools already... so... let's get version 4 a'rocking... Audio and midi groove quantize. Pretty cool. It kinda makes me wonder why kids (with Macs anyway) are chasing after pro daws when something like GB is more than what they need.
wow that video is pretty cool - but also deeply disturbing - "so you suck?" "hit FIX and now you don't!" you'll never have to practice again! that said i'definately use such features ;) i wear this hypocrisy with pride since i have at least had to endure making my first music on an 8bit machine with a max of only 4 sounds at once and with sounds that could only be 6seconds long, so its now ok for me to cheat - ha. nicely implemented too - i get a feeling reaper won't do this in 4.0 - tho it is only a few steps beyond the current timestretch capabilities i guess so could be...
Gotta give Apple credit. They make the simple idea of buying a Mac look very appealing. Have a look at iMovie 11... most regular people with a handy cam wouldn't really need anything else to make some impressive vids. On top of that they're adding "Face Time" video chat to the desktop... Generally speaking, with a Mac and $49 worth of software (iLife) you're pretty much set... the media hobbyist. Sorry about the off topic rambling here. Consider the FR a bump for groove quantize.
--------------------- Mike Whitney whit32@gmail.com 2008 M5, 2002 M3
The groove quantize in GB looks pretty impressive. It seems like such a useful feature for a DAW. Are there technical problems that are delaying this kind of quantization in Reaper, or are there other, more important issues in the pipe first? Kyle
that is somewhat the problem too, however. I don't want to just sync it up, I want to create new beat variations from it, etc. That would all require some kind of dialog. Maybe like how our quantize mode has a "from grid" and then a more extensive mode, there could be both options. I normally use groove quantize for spicing up midi sequences, not for grooving audio to midi or vice versa. I do the grooving myself, thanks :) (of course for remixing and changing styles this could be very interesting, im not discounting it)
Jason makes a good point. My use of it is generally applying the groove of one thing to another like in Cubase, playing a midi bass line and having it groove to a live kick drum track more or that kinda thing, making a stiff drum pattern groove to another track... timing wise. But I suppose there are various uses for groove quantize. Cool. I agree, for the more complex stuff you would need a dialog. For basic timing correction though like in that vid where the players were just kinda sloppy, less (simple, if it works) is more.
--------------------- Ernie Peters 1999 M3 Coupe Dakar Yellow
caution, this is a retarded question. What exactly is "groove" in the context that you guys are discussing it? Could it be described as a pattern of relative loudness on instrument tracks, or what? Or is it a rhythmic thing?