Live lock is not unusual when using slow filters, and I always use the ESC key to get out of it instead of cancel. The files are OK by this method. You should not have any filter chain going when you make the .WAV file, and I don't add the filters in until you are done editing in MEP2004 because it slow things down. Also don't trim in VD. only in the NLE. DVD Shrink is what I use too. richard

thanks for the replies 

thanks, Hey rfmmars, nice to see someone familiar around! Filters? I don't think I was using any. I just selected extract .wav. I don't remember selecting any filters. hmm... As I'm not on my home computer, I'll check that up when I get back. As for livelock, I don't see why or when I should have pressed escape. It started to process the audio or something and then a error message appreared stating and error with livelock. I just press ok. They process stops and dissapears! I see the audio file in MEP but when importing, MEP can't read it. I'll try again and get back! - thanks Matthew, I might have to check into them if VD fails! - P.S. I selected "email notifications" when posting but haven't recieved any. I just dropped in and found I had replies! Hmm...

Ok, I've tried again with some .VOBs created with DVDDecrypter and I still get the same error when trying to playback in VD: No audio decompressor could found to decompress the source audio format

go to the file info (in the file menu) if it says tag 2000 its AC3... but its gotta be, because mp2 would be decoded natively.

Hooray!!! Thanks alot stephanV !! It plays the audio! You can now call yourself an intellectual ;) Oh, wait, hold the celebration, it's out of sync! AHHHH! Now what, or is it considered ok on playback/preview in VD? ---- and I suppose thats what that thread stephanV gave was all about. hmm... I suppose I've got to try DVD2AVI eh? Man, the amount of stuff you gotta go through and download, and learn and waste time and find, you gotta try something else! Ah, thats life! --- now that I have checked out the linked thread, my head reels!! Its so bloody confusing, creating a file in DVD2AVI and then scripting(I don't have time for all this) with Avisynth and what not. I found a tutorial for creating and demuxing audio in DVD2AVI. All so bloody complicated. I sure hope someone has a swell idea quick!!!!

by the way, where do you get the pluging mentioned in the thread stephanV linked? Nero suggests a workabout with the fllowing code: LoadPlugin("mpeg2dec3.dll") I've decided to try teh work about and I've got as far as importing the avs file into VD but it wont recognize the plugin. or is there another plugin to use. also, in that thread, fccHandler mentions Mpeg2Dec3 as part of the workabout yet Nero doesn't. Wher does that come in? Thanks!

I am using version 1.54 richard

where do you get that version. That might fix it. But I can't find it. Can you email it to me or PM or something? thanks

I can tell you for certain, that version won't fix your sync problem. Richard's VOBs are either straightforward interlaced NTSC/PAL, or else they are FILM sources with a rigid 3:2 pattern. But your VOBs are likely a hybrid mix of NTSC and FILM, in which the rff/tff flags are erratic. To process this type of source correctly, you must use DVD2AVI + Mpeg2Dec3 + Avisynth.